EP153: Unlocking Leadership: Self Awareness + The Law of the Lid w/Jesse McCullough

 

LEADERSHIP IS LEARNED

And can be improved!

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In this episode, I am joined by Jesse McCullough from Keystone Pharmacy Insights. Jesse is a pharmacist-turned-entrepreneur with a passion for leadership development, particularly within the pharmacy profession. Jesse’s journey—from working in retail pharmacy to embracing leadership development—highlights the transformative power of self-awareness, persistence, and intentional growth.

Here are the key takeaways you will get from our conversation:

  1. Leadership Can Be Learned
    Jesse dispels the myth that leaders are born, emphasizing that leadership is a skill anyone can develop. His definition of leadership—helping someone at some time to achieve something—reminds us that leadership starts with influence, not titles.

  2. The Seven Levels of Awareness
    Jesse shares a framework that maps personal growth from reactionary behaviors (Animal Awareness) to mastery, where decisions are deliberate and informed by experience. This progression challenges us to identify where we "pay rent" in our lives and strive for higher levels of awareness.

  3. The Law of the Lid
    Drawing on John Maxwell’s 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership, Jesse explained how a leader’s personal growth directly limits or enhances the growth of their team. Raising your own "lid" empowers those you lead to reach new heights.

  4. Discipline Drives Progress
    Jesse highlighted the importance of pushing through resistance and failure to achieve meaningful results. He encourages investing time daily—whether five minutes or 30—to learn and apply new leadership concepts.

  5. Everyone Deserves to Be Led Well
    Jesse’s parting message is a call to action: “Everyone deserves to be led well.” As leaders, it’s our responsibility to grow, improve, and positively impact those around us.

This episode is packed with insights to inspire and challenge leaders at every stage. Whether you’re leading a team, a family, or yourself, these lessons are practical and impactful.

Please listen to the episode - Jesse has so much to share!

A big thank you to Jesse for joining me!

What Do You Think?

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Links

Facebook: KPI Pharmacy

LinkedIn: Jesse McCullough

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